With our fully interactive online money movement service (the " Funds Transfer Service" or the "Service"), you may transfer funds from any of your accounts at any financial institution to any other account held by you or another person at the same or another financial institution - referred to in this agreement as "Accounts" - assuming, of course, that the transfer is permitted by your financial institution and by law.
Please take a few minutes to read this Funds Transfer Service Agreement (referred to throughout as the "Agreement"). Any reference to "MIT Federal Credit Union" in this Agreement includes any directors, officers, employees, contractors, service providers, agents or licensees of MIT Federal Credit Union . As used in this Agreement, the words "you" and "your" refer to you as the user of the Service; the words "we," "us," "our" and any other variation thereof refer to MIT Federal Credit Union. When you're ready, click the "I Agree" box to start enjoying the convenience and financial security of Funds Transfer!
Acceptance of Terms
This Agreement sets out the terms and conditions (the "Terms") on which our service provider and MIT Federal Credit Union will provide and you may use the Service and forms part of a legally binding agreement between you and MIT Federal Credit Union. When you click on the "I Agree" button, you will complete an application to receive the Funds Transfer Service, and you agree to accept the Terms, including any amendments to this Agreement or any changes in the Terms. Your application may be accepted or declined by our service provider and/or MIT Federal Credit Union based on specific criteria. If you do not agree to all of the Terms, click on the "I Disagree" button. If you do not accept and agree to all of the Terms, you will not be entitled to use the Service. MIT Federal Credit Union reserves the right to change the Terms under which the Service is offered in its sole discretion at any time; however, MIT Federal Credit Union will notify you of any material change to the Terms. In most cases, you will receive the notice online the next time you log in; however, MIT Federal Credit Union reserves the right to notify you by e-mail or by conventional mail, in its discretion. You agree that if you continue to use the Service after we notify you of any change, you thereby accept the changes to the Terms and agree to be bound by this Agreement, as amended. If you do not accept and agree to the changes to the Terms, you will not be entitled to use the Service. You can review, download and print the most current version of this Agreement at any time by clicking on " Funds Transfer Service Agreement." If you do not agree to the changes, or if at any time you wish to discontinue your use of the Service, you can unsubscribe by clicking on "unsubscribe" from the Edit Profile page or by sending MIT Federal Credit Union an e-mail to email@example.com or, if you prefer, by sending a registered or certified letter to MIT Federal Credit Union at 700 Technology Square, Cambridge, MA 02139-3586. Once your account with MIT Federal Credit Union has terminated for any reason, you will have no further right or access to use the Funds Transfer Service. To use the Funds Transfer Service you must be at least eighteen (18) years old and be a resident of the United States.
By clicking on the "I Agree" box, you authorize us to verify your identity by obtaining information about your credit history from a consumer reporting agency. MIT Federal Credit Union and our service provider will obtain and use your credit information only in accordance with the Fair Credit Reporting Act ("FCRA") and other applicable law. We reserve the right to deny you access to the Service if we cannot verify your identity or other necessary information. We may approve or decline your application for the Service based upon our review of your consumer report, along with other information we deem relevant. If we deny your request to use the Service, you may obtain a free copy of the consumer report that we used from the consumer reporting agency that issued the report.
In addition to obtaining a consumer report, MIT Federal Credit Union and our service provider reserves the right to obtain such additional information as we deem reasonably necessary to insure that you, or persons to whom you may transfer funds, are not using our Service in violation of law, including, but not limited to, laws and regulations designed to prevent "money laundering" or the transfer of funds to or from persons or organizations whose accounts are blocked under regulations of the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) of the United States Treasury Department.
Once you are approved for the Funds Transfer Service we may verify your Accounts that you add to the Service from time to time. You authorize us to validate the Accounts through the use of a test transfer, in which one or more low value payments will be both credited to and debited from the Account. The test credit will always occur before the test debit and will always be of the same or lesser amount, so that the balance in any of your Accounts will never be less than the actual balance.
Once the test transfer is complete we may ask you to access your Account to tell us the amount of the test credit or debit or any additional information reported by your bank with this test transfer. We may also verify Accounts through requiring the entry of information you ordinarily use to access the Account provider's web site, or by requiring you to submit proof of ownership of the Account.
You understand that in order to complete fund transfers, it is necessary for MIT Federal Credit Union and our service provider to access the websites and databases of your bank and other institutions where you hold Accounts, as designated by you and on your behalf, to retrieve information and effect the fund transfers you request. By using the Service, you represent and warrant to us that you have the right to authorize and permit us to access your Accounts to effect such funds transfers or for any other purpose authorized by this Agreement, and you assure us that by disclosing and authorizing us to use such information you are not violating any third party rights. You warrant and represent that the information you are providing us with is true, current, correct and complete. You hereby authorize and permit MIT Federal Credit Union and our service provider to use information submitted by you to accomplish these purposes and to configure the Service to be compatible with the Accounts.
For as long as you are using the Service, you give to MIT Federal Credit Union and our service provider a limited power of attorney and appoint MIT Federal Credit Union and our service provider as your true and lawful attorney-in-fact and agent, with full power of substitution and resubstitution, for you and in your name, place and stead, in any and all capacities, to access the Accounts, effect funds transfers as described above, with full power and authority to do and perform each and every act and thing requisite and necessary to be done in connection with effecting funds transfers, including verifying the content and authenticity of any funds transfer instruction for the purposes of security procedures applicable to Accounts, as fully to all intents and purposes as you might or could in person. Once MIT Federal Credit Union and/or our service provider has actual knowledge that you wish to cease using the MIT Federal Credit Union Service as provided in this Agreement or as otherwise permitted in this Agreement and has a reasonable opportunity to act on such knowledge, this limited power of attorney is automatically revoked; provided, however, that any act done by MIT Federal Credit Union and/or our service provider in good faith before it has actual knowledge of termination by you and has a reasonable opportunity to act on such knowledge shall be deemed to be authorized by you.
You understand and agree that at all times your relationship with each Account provider is independent of MIT Federal Credit Union and your use of the Funds Transfer Service. MIT Federal Credit Union will not be responsible for any acts or omissions by the financial institution or other provider of any Account, including without limitation any modification, interruption or discontinuance of any Account by such provider.
YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT WHEN MIT Federal Credit Union AND OUR SERVICE PROVIDER IS EFFECTING A FUNDS TRANSFER FROM OR TO ANY OF YOUR OR A RECIPIENT'S ACCOUNTS, MIT Federal Credit Union AND OUR SERVICE PROVIDER IS ACTING AS YOUR AGENT, AND NOT AS THE AGENT OR ON BEHALF OF ANY THIRD PARTY. You agree that MIT Federal Credit Union, its affiliates, service providers and partners shall be entitled to rely on the foregoing authorization, agency and power of attorney granted by you.
YOU AGREE THAT WE SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY COSTS, FEES, LOSSES OR DAMAGES OF ANY KIND INCURRED AS A RESULT OF (1) OUR ACCESS TO THE ACCOUNTS; (2) OUR DEBIT AND/OR CREDIT OR INABILITY TO DEBIT AND/OR CREDIT THE ACCOUNTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR FUNDS TRANSFER INSTRUCTIONS; (3) ANY INACCURACY, INCOMPLETENESS OR MISINFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE INFORMATION RETRIEVED FROM THE ACCOUNTS; (4) ANY CHARGES IMPOSED BY ANY PROVIDER OF ACCOUNTS AND (5) ANY FUNDS TRANSFER LIMITATIONS SET BY THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS OR OTHER PROVIDERS OF THE ACCOUNTS.
Not all types of accounts are eligible for Funds Transfer . Be sure to check with your financial institution for restrictions regarding transfers among your retirement (401k, IRA, etc.), savings, trusts, loans, custodial, business, corporate and other account types. We are not responsible for any costs or losses incurred from fund transfers that are not permitted under such restrictions by the provider of your Account or those imposed by applicable law.
- General Consent; Categories of Records. The Funds Transfer Service is an electronic, Internet based-service. Therefore, you understand and agree that this Agreement will be entered into electronically, and that the following categories of information ("Communications") may be provided by electronic means: This Agreement and any amendments, modifications or supplements to it.
Your records of funds transfers and other transactions through the Service, including without limitation confirmations of individual transactions.
Any initial, periodic or other disclosures or notices provided in connection with the Service, including without limitation those required by federal or state law.
Any customer service communications, including without limitation communications with respect to claims of error or unauthorized use of the Service.
Any other communication related to the Service.
Although MIT Federal Credit Union reserves the right to provide Communications in paper format at any time, you agree that we are under no obligation to do so. All Communications in either electronic or paper format will be considered to be "in writing." You should print a paper copy of this Agreement and any electronic Communication that is important to you and retain the copy for your records. If you do not agree to receive this Agreement or the Communications electronically, you may not use the Service.
- How to Withdraw Consent. If you have registered for the Service and you wish to withdraw your consent to have Communications provided in electronic form, you must cancel any pending transfer requests (within the time period permitted by the Service cancellation policies) and stop using the Service. There are no fees to cancel a pending transfer request (as long as such cancellation is made within the time period permitted by the Service cancellation policies).
- How to Update Your Records. You agree to promptly update your registration records if your e-mail address or other information changes. You may update your records, such as your e-mail address, by using the Profile page.
- Delivery of Electronic Communications. Communications may be posted on the pages of the Service website or other website disclosed to you and/or delivered to the e-mail address you provide. Any electronic Communication sent by e-mail will be deemed to have been received by you when Funds Transfer sends it to you, whether or not you received the e-mail. If the Communication is posted on the Service, then it will be deemed to have been received by you no later than five (5) business days after Funds Transfer posts the Communication on the pages of the Service, whether or not you retrieve the Communication. An electronic Communication by e-mail is considered to be sent at the time that it is directed by MIT Federal Credit Union 's e-mail server to the appropriate e-mail address. An electronic Communication made by posting to the pages of the Service is considered to be sent at the time it is publicly available. You agree that these are reasonable procedures for sending and receiving electronic Communications.
- Hardware and Software Requirements. In order to access and retain Communications, you must have:
An Internet browser that supports 128-bit encryption, such as Netscape Navigator version 4.7 or above or Internet Explorer version 5.0 or above.
An e-mail account and e-mail software capable of reading and responding to your e-mail.
A personal computer, operating system and telecommunications connections to the Internet capable of supporting the foregoing.
Sufficient electronic storage capacity on your computer's hard drive or other data storage unit.
A printer that is capable of printing from your browser and e-mail software
To enable you, and only you, to use the Service, you will be asked to choose a password when you register and are accepted as a customer of the Service. This password is stored in encrypted form by us. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Funds Transfer customer number and password. No one at MIT Federal Credit Union has access to your Accounts passwords or user ID's. You are responsible for uses of the Service whether or not actually or expressly authorized by you. Therefore, it is important that you DO NOT SHARE YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER OR PASSWORD WITH ANYONE FOR ANY REASON. No one at MIT Federal Credit Union will know or need to know your password, and MIT Federal Credit Union employees will never ask for your password.
If you wish to make a transfer to an Account of another person, you will be asked to provide a separate code word or phrase (the "Shared Secret") that is known only to you and to the person to whom you are transferring the funds (the "Recipient"). We recommend that you do not use commonly used words, phrases or dates. In order to complete the transfer, the Recipient must provide the Shared Secret and certain other identifying information. YOU AGREE THAT YOU WILL NOT GIVE THE SHARED SECRET TO ANYONE EXCEPT THE RECIPIENT FOR ANY REASON. YOU FURTHER AGREE THAT YOU WILL INSTRUCT THE RECIPIENT NOT TO GIVE THE SHARED SECRET TO ANYONE ELSE FOR ANY REASON.
Contact in the Event of Unauthorized Transfer
If you believe your password or Shared Secret has been lost or stolen, or that someone has transferred or may transfer money from your Account without your permission, call: or fax: 617-324-6319 , or e-mail: , or write: Funds Transfer Administrator, MIT Federal Credit Union 700 Technology Square, Cambridge, MA 02139-3586.
You agree to notify us AT ONCE if you believe your password has been lost or stolen. Telephoning us promptly is the best way to protect yourself from possible losses. If you never tell us, you could lose all of the money in your account (plus your maximum non-sufficient funds/overdraft (NSF/OD) line of credit). However, if you tell us within 2 business days, you can lose no more than $50 if someone used your password without your permission.
If you do NOT tell us within 2 business days after you learn of the loss or theft of your password, and we can prove we could have stopped someone from using your password without your permission if you had told us, you could lose as much as $500.
You can see a complete statement of all your funds transfers effected or pending at any time by clicking on the History tab. If your statement shows transfers that you did not make, notify us AT ONCE. If you do not tell us within 60 days after the transfer was posted to your statement, you may not get back any money you lost after the 60 days, if we can prove that we could have stopped someone from taking the money if you had told us in time. If a good reason (such as a long trip or a hospital stay) kept you from telling us, we will extend the time periods.
The Service will process requests for transfers on business days. Our business days are Monday through Friday. Holidays and Bank Holidays are not included.
Transfer Types and Limitations
Types of Transfers
You may use your Funds Transfer password to transfer funds between any two of your Accounts about which you have provided the necessary information to funds transfer. Transfers can be between Accounts within the same financial institution or at an unrelated financial institution (although transfers between Accounts at the same institution may be effected more quickly by contacting the institution directly). You may also use the Service to transfer funds from one of your Accounts to an account of a Recipient. Specific instructions for transferring funds to an account of a Recipient are available by clicking on the "Pay anyone" tab.
Some of these services may not be available at all times. We may from time to time make available additional or new features to the Service, including but not limited to, a next day service and a higher limit service. You will be approved or declined for any such additional service at our sole discretion and additional terms and conditions may apply. Please ensure that you have sufficient funds to effect any funds transfers from your Accounts. We may at any time decline to effect any funds transfers that it believes may violate applicable law.
Frequency of Transfers
We do not limit the number of funds transfers you may make; however, you may not make funds transfers in excess of the number of funds transfers allowed by the rules governing the applicable Accounts. We may from time to time for security and risk management reasons modify the limit, the frequency and the dollar amount of transfers you can make using our Service.
Dollar Amount of Transfers
You may not make funds transfers in excess of limits described on the Service. We reserve the right to change from time to time the dollar amount of funds transfers you are permitted to make using our Service. Without limiting the foregoing, in the event that your use of the Service has been suspended and reinstated as provided herein (see "Suspension and Reinstatement of Funds Transfer Service" below), you understand and agree that your use of the Service thereafter may be subject to lower dollar amount limitations than would otherwise be permitted by us.
Transfers Subject to the Rules of the Accounts
Additionally, all funds transfers are also subject to the rules and regulations governing the relevant Accounts. You agree not to effect any funds transfers from or to an Account that are not allowed under the rules or regulations applicable to such accounts including, without limitation, rules or regulations designed to prevent the transfer of funds in violation of OFAC regulations.
Rejection of Transfers
We reserve the right to decline to effect any funds transfers, to submit funds transfer instructions or orders or to carry out change or cancellation requests.
You authorize us to select any means to execute your funds transfer instructions. You understand that to effect your funds transfer instruction we utilize the Automated Clearing House (ACH), using applicable ACH Rules, we debit one of your Accounts and credit another of your Accounts or an account of a Recipient. Once your Account has been debited, we credit our service provider's transfer account at the service provider's clearing bank. After our service provider and/or its clearing bank are reasonably certain that the debit will not be returned (in most cases this is usually between 3-4 banking days), our service provider will credit your or the Recipients Account. The sole purpose for our service provider's transfer account is to complete your funds transfer requests and for performing the services within the scope of this Agreement. The service provider earns no interest on the funds in the transfer account. If the debit side fails or is returned for any reason and the credit side has been released and cannot be collected, you authorize our service provider to collect from the Account to which the credit side of the funds transfer was sent. We reserve the right to resubmit a debit, or a portion of the debit, in the event of an insufficient or uncollected funds return and if we cannot collect the amount credited. To effect this collection, you understand and authorize us to debit the credited Account or the debited Account in either the same dollar amount as the original funds transfer or a portion of the debit. There may be a fee associated with such collection imposed by the financial institution holding the Account.
You understand and agree that we may from time to time impose additional charges in connection with your funds transfer transactions. MIT Federal Credit Union will notify you of such fee in advance of the transaction. If you choose to proceed with the transaction, you authorize MIT Federal Credit Union to debit your account in the amount indicated.
In the event that a debit to any of your Accounts, or any portion of any such debit, has failed and the credit side of such transaction has been released and cannot be collected, and we are unable to debit either the debited or the credited Account as set forth above, we reserve the right, and you hereby authorize us, to debit any of your other Accounts to the extent necessary to offset any resulting deficiency. We do not undertake to notify you in such event, other than by posting any such transfer or transfers to the applicable Account in accordance with this Agreement (see "Documentation," below).
You understand and agree that in the event we are unable to execute your funds transfer request utilizing the ACH, we may utilize other established payment mechanisms in order to complete your funds transfer instructions, such as wire transfer or check.
If you have requested for a funds transfer to a Recipient, you must provide us with a true, correct, current email address for such Recipient. We will contact the Recipient, and ask the Recipient to provide us with certain information, such as the account number and financial institution that they wish to transfer the funds to. If the Recipient fails to reply to the email or fails to follow the instructions provided by us, we will notify you and credit your Account for the amount of the transfer.
Suspension and Reinstatement of Funds Transfer Service
In the event that we at any time incur a problem with your use of the Service, including without limitation a fail in Funds Transfer Service to debit any of your Accounts or to collect with respect to any of your funds transfers as described above, and without limiting any other right or remedy that we may have under this Agreement or otherwise, we reserve the right to suspend your right to use the Service, immediately and without prior notice to you. You understand and agree that such action is reasonable for us to take in order to protect itself from loss. In the event of such suspension, you may request reinstatement of your service by contacting us using any of the methods provided for under this Agreement (see "Error Reporting and Claims," below). We reserve the right in its sole discretion to grant or deny reinstatement of your use of the Service. In the event we agree to reinstate you, we reserve the right to, and ordinarily will, initially reinstate your Service subject to lower per-transaction and monthly dollar limits and/or with other restrictions than otherwise might be available to you. Based upon your subsequent usage of the Service, MIT Federal Credit Union in its sole discretion may thereafter restore your ability to effect transfers subject to such higher limits as may then be in effect (see "Dollar Amount of Transfers," above).
You may access a statement of all funds transfers effected or pending at any time by clicking on the History tab. If a funds transfer could not be completed, MIT Federal Credit Union and/or our service provider, upon learning that the funds transfer has failed, will make a reasonable effort to complete the transfer again. If the funds transfer fails a second time, we will notify you to contact your financial institution or other provider of the relevant Account to learn more about the failure.
Your Responsibility for Errors
You understand that we must rely on the information provided by you and you authorize us to act on any instruction which has been or reasonably appears to have been sent by you, to submit funds transfer instructions on your behalf. You understand that financial institutions receiving the funds transfer instructions may rely on such information. We are not obliged to take any further steps to confirm or authenticate such instructions and will act on them without getting further confirmation. You understand that if you provide us with incorrect information or if there is any error in your instruction we will make all reasonable efforts to reverse or delete such instructions, but you accept full responsibility for losses resulting from any of your errors, duplication, ambiguities or fraud in the information that you provide. You agree not to impersonate any person or use a name that you are not authorized to use. If any information you provide is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, without limiting other remedies, MIT Federal Credit Union reserves the right to recover from you any costs or losses incurred as a direct or indirect result of the inaccurate or incomplete information.
Error Reporting and Claims
In case of errors or questions about your funds transfers, e-mail us at firstname.lastname@example.org or telephone us at or write to us at MIT Federal Credit Union 700 Technology Square, Cambridge, MA 02139-3586 as soon as you can, if you think your statement is wrong or if you need more information about a transfer listed on the statement. You can see a complete statement of all your funds transfers effected or pending at any time by clicking on the History tab. We must hear from you within 60 days after we FIRST posted the transfer to your statement.
(1) Tell us your name, and the account number of the Account to which the error relates. (2) Describe the error or the transfer you are unsure about, and explain as clearly as you can why you believe it is in error or why you need more information. (3) Tell us the dollar amount of the suspected error.
If you tell us orally, we may require that you send us your complaint or question in writing within 10 business days. We will determine whether we committed an error within 10 business days (20 business days for new member accounts) after we hear from you and will correct any error promptly. If we need more time, however, we may take up to 45 days (90 days for new member accounts) to investigate your complaint or question. If we decide to do this, we will credit/debit the applicable Accounts within 10 business days (20 business days for new member accounts) for the amount you believe is in error, so that you or your intended Recipient will have use of the money during the time it takes us to complete our investigation. If we ask you to put your question or complaint in writing and we do not receive it within 10 business days, we may not credit/debit the applicable Accounts.
We will tell you the results within three business days after completing our investigation. If we decide that we did not make an error, we will send you a written explanation. You may ask for copies of the documents we used in our investigation.
We are not responsible for errors, delays and other problems caused by or resulting from the action or inaction of financial institutions holding the Account or the account of your Recipient. Although we will try to assist you in resolving any such problems, you understand that any such errors, delays or other problems are the responsibility of the relevant financial institution or the Recipient. Any rights you may have against a financial institution for such errors, delays or other problems are subject to the terms of the agreements you have with such financial institution, including any time limits during which complaints must be made.
You acknowledge and agree that MIT Federal Credit Union and/or our service provider owns all rights in and to the Funds Transfer Service. You are permitted to use the Service only as expressly authorized by this Agreement. You may not copy, reproduce, distribute, or create derivative works, reverse engineer or reverse compile MIT Federal Credit Union and/or our service provider's Funds Transfer Service or any of MIT Federal Credit Union and/or our service provider's services or technology.
No Unlawful or Prohibited Use
As a condition of using the Service, you warrant to us that you will not use the Service for any purpose that is unlawful or is not permitted, expressly or implicitly, by the terms of this Agreement or by any applicable law or regulation. You further warrant and represent that you will not use the Service in any manner that could damage, disable, overburden, or impair the Service or interfere with any other party's use and enjoyment of the Service. You may not obtain or use Funds Transfer Service to obtain any materials or information through any means not intentionally made available or provided for through the Service. You agree that these warranties and representations will remain in full force and effect even if this Agreement terminates for any reason.
Service Changes and Discontinuation
We may modify or discontinue the Service or your account with us, with or without notice, without liability to you, any other user or any third party. We reserve the right, subject to applicable law, to terminate your account and your right to use the Service at any time and for any reason, including without limitation if we, in our sole judgment, believe you have engaged in conduct or activities that violate any of the Terms or the rights of MIT Federal Credit Union and/or our service provider, or if you provide us with false or misleading information or interfere with other users or the administration of the Services. We reserve the right to charge a fee for the use of the Service and any additional services or features that we may introduce. You understand and agree that you are responsible for paying all fees associated with the use of our Funds Transfer Service.
You may terminate your account with MIT Federal Credit Union at any time by clicking on 'unsubscribe' from the page or by sending us an e-mail at or, if you prefer, by sending a registered or certified letter to MIT Federal Credit Union at 700 Technology Square, Cambridge, MA 02139-3586. Once your account with MIT Federal Credit Union has terminated for any reason, you will have no further right or access to use the Funds Transfer Service, and MIT Federal Credit Union will not access your Accounts thereafter for any reason.
Links To Third-Party Sites
The MIT Federal Credit Union website may contain links to other websites ("Linked Sites"). Such links are provided solely as a convenience to you. MIT Federal Credit Union does not screen, approve, review or otherwise endorse any content or information contained in any Linked Sites. You acknowledge and agree that MIT Federal Credit Union , its affiliates and partners are not responsible for the contents of any Linked Sites, including the accuracy or availability of information provided by Linked Sites, and makes no representations or warranties regarding the Linked Sites or your use of them.
You understand that the financial institution at which an Account is maintained may contact us to verify the content and authority of funds transfer instructions and any changes to those instructions. You understand that, as your agent, we may provide to such financial institution such information as may be required to verify the instructions and may constitute a valid security procedure under the rules governing such Account.
Deviating from Security Procedures
You agree to allow us to authorize any financial institution at which you have an Account to accept funds and transfer instructions in accordance with any authorization procedures as may be agreed from time to time between you and such financial institution, or between us, on your behalf, and such financial institution, without verifying the instructions under the established security procedures, regardless of whether such security procedures were agreed by you directly or by us on your behalf. In addition you agree that we may authorize such financial institutions to charge and debit your accounts based solely on these communications.
Account Number Policy
If funds transfer instructions identify a bank or beneficiary by name and account number, the relevant financial institution may execute those instructions by reference to the number only, even if the number does not cor